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Inactive plug-in
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31/01/13 15:43
I've been using Griddlers with the new igridd plug in for awhile now.

Today when I clicked to start a puzzle, all I see is "Inactive Plug-in"--and when I click on it, my computer searched and said all my software is up to date.

Any idea what I need to do?

I am using a MacBook running OS 10.6.8 and I get the same problem with both Firefox and Safari.

Thanks!

RE: Inactive plug-in
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31/01/13 18:12 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Hi, Java is not longer supported by Apple on Mac OS. You can download Java Runtime Environment from Oracle - www.java.com .
Rasto.

RE: Inactive plug-in
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31/01/13 19:03 en respuesta a Ra100.
Is that something that suddenly happened today? One would think there would be some notice on the Apple website (where I was able to reinstall Java, not that that helped).

I was able to use the plug in until last night. Do you know that something specifically happened between 6 a.m. GMT and 2 p.m. GMT that caused the plug in to be inactive and not be able to be activated?

I'm curious as to whether there are any other Mac OS users having this problem.

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31/01/13 19:28 en respuesta a Ra100.
Okay, I've now spent time on the Apple website (which still has it's own Java version for OS 10.6.8, which is what my computer runs). No suggestion that Apple doesn't support Java for Mac OS.

I've also gone to www.java.com as you suggested. The software you suggested is only available for higher numbered OS's (which is what Apple says, too).

I've done several searches about what to do about "Inactive plug-in" and everything I've found says just to click that message. That solution doesn't work for me.

I also went into Java preferences to make sure that the proper permissions are enabled. They are. Just to make sure, I disabled them, rebooted, then re-enabled.  Didn't fix anything.

Is anyone else having this particular problem? If it's related to Apple's relationship with Java, this problem wouldn't uniquely be happening to me.

RE: Inactive plug-in
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31/01/13 19:57 en respuesta a Ra100.
If I understand this article, there seems to be no workaround for now:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/01/31/apple-blocks-java-on-macs-due-to-vulnerabilities/1880783/

I'm surprised no one else has written besides me.

RE: Inactive plug-in
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1/02/13 0:37 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Same problem as every-one else with Mac OSX, 10.6.8.    I tried everything mentioned, and no success, so deleted the igridd applet files and then tried to download applet again, still getting inactive plug-in message.

Not sure whose responsibility it is to fix this or where to go for solution.   Should I lobby Java, Apple or Griddlers ?????

Please help.

RE: Inactive plug-in
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1/02/13 4:29 en respuesta a patsy1.
Apple disabled Java for all of us. No workarounds that will last (and the ones I've read about look a little too frightening in terms of leaving our systems vulnerable).

Who to lobby? Oracle.

Meanwhile, no griddlers. emoticon  Am very sad.

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1/02/13 4:48 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Me Too! Inactive plugin as of last night. Also running OS 10.6.8. 

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1/02/13 6:44 en respuesta a TLT.
Hi, what about Firefox ? I think the Java plugin is blocked only in Safari.

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1/02/13 6:49 en respuesta a Ra100.
I have tried both Firefox and Safari.  Same result.  Normally I used Firefox.  It is an issue with Java and Mac, regardless of Web browser.  Thanks for your thoughts.

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1/02/13 6:51 en respuesta a Ra100.
It's blocked for all browsers. Apple will not allow Java to connect to anything through the Internet.

Apparently it works in programs that are only used offline.

This is something new. Have you noticed a big drop off in activity on the stie as a result?

RE: Inactive plug-in
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1/02/13 6:52 en respuesta a elisadavis.
I too have Java issues.  Here is what I have found out and I have emailed to Griddler Team.  You might do this also to encourage them to assist. 
    For those with PC's there seem to be no issue.  
     For those with MAC--no solution--yet--It does not matter what version of Java or what browser you use.  Nothing will work because:
1.  Java is no longer supported by Apple.  (Apple previously had a deal with Oracle-the provider of Java and they cancelled it.)  Thus no Java application can run on a Mac product.
2.  Any other application you have that needs Java is also now non-functional.
3.  This is true on every browser  
4.  Some persons in various forums have suggested going directly to Java.com to install or reinstall.  You cannot do it--Because--surprise--there is no download available for a Mac!!  An Apple product user cannot download Java. 
5.  Apple has stated there will be no fix.  They have stated that they told Java of this event 2 years ago.  There is no point in contacting Apple.
6.    And Java (Oracle has done nothing to provide a solution.)  Even IF Oracle/Java had a fix--Apple will not support it.
7.  Bottom line is:  Anyone using an Apple product can no longer do Griddler puzzles.
   Best solution:  Griddlers needs to get another plug-in that is Mac compatible.  The consequence of not doing so will result in huge l loss of players to Griddlers AND a huge loss to individual puzzlers.  And if/when it does--post a notice on their Homepage to download a new plug-in.  Then we would all be happy again.  Until then (: (: (:

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1/02/13 7:00 en respuesta a jj4410.
What you've written is not entirely accurate. Java is still on Macs, but right now Apple is blocking running it on sites that connect through the internet. If Oracle can plug the security holes, we can expect Apple to reverse the blocking.

http://bostonglobe.com/business/2013/02/01/apple-blocks-java-macs-due-vulnerabilities/24MwnDpwVjGOLVLgUpcMiK/story.html

Is a good story that is written in clear language that explains what is happening.

Your message makes it sound as though it would be simple for the Griddlers team to find some other platform for the puzzles. Hard to imagine that is true.

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1/02/13 7:02 en respuesta a jj4410.
Caught between a rock and a hard place.  Agree with the previous.  There is no win-win here unless Griddlers can resolve it.  I have been on this site at least once a week for 5 years and I'm jones-ing today.  Griddlers Team can you help.

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1/02/13 7:12 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Reply to Elisa--I read the article this morning--however it misses the point entirely!!  Apple has severed all ties with Java/Oracle.  They gave Oracle 2 years to fix the security issue and Oracle did not.  So Apple cancelled Oracle by refusing to support the application on Apple products.  I have found nothing to support the idea that Oracle is fixing what Apple calls "security issues".  So even IF, Oracle fised it--there is no guarentee that Apple will let it back in.  There is bad blood between Apple and Oracle.  

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1/02/13 7:18 en respuesta a jj4410.
I've been reading a lot of material on this (on MacRumors, too). Apple has not severed all ties with Java. It still even has Java to download right on its website. And you can still run programs with Java on the Mac.

If you have any actual links to back up your assertions, please share them.

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1/02/13 7:24 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Only if you have Apple's Leopard--10.7 & higher. There were issues with that.  According to forums, most 10.7 users were uninstalling SE 7 for Leopard and reinstalling SE 6.  Tell me of anything you have found that Oracle intends to fix the issue to Apple's satisfaction.  I have found none.

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1/02/13 7:28 en respuesta a jj4410.
Oops--I meant OS 10.7 LION.  10.6 is Snow Leopard.  Sorry for the typpo.  But the info remains the same.

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1/02/13 7:30 en respuesta a elisadavis.
Reply to Elisa- And even in the Boston Globe article which, you are correct, explains it well, states "No comment from Oracle."  A thought to ponder :  You would think that IF Oracle wanted to fix the security issues for Mac users, not to mention Homeland Security, it would be issuing press releases and patches.  

RE: Inactive plug-in
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1/02/13 7:43 en respuesta a jj4410.
Hi
for those of you who are frustrated by Apple and Oracle approach i put a link to Lite version of puzzle to the detail page. It is located above the applet area.
Lite version is really lite. So far you can just solve the puzzle, not more. There is no Save, Zoom, Guides, Markers etc. 
But it works.

Rasto.
P.S. Plan is to make this application as good as the old applet as much as possible.

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