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New format NOT good Kris 08/02/16 20.40
RE: New format NOT good Heidi . 08/02/16 2.03
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 08/02/16 2.52
RE: New format NOT good Kris 08/02/16 18.00
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 09/02/16 3.13
RE: New format NOT good Lyn Port 08/02/16 3.09
RE: New format NOT good Michaela Koska 08/02/16 5.41
RE: New format NOT good Jacqui . 08/02/16 8.13
RE: New format NOT good Bendik August Nesbø 08/02/16 8.32
RE: New format NOT good Rue . 08/02/16 12.39
RE: New format NOT good metus 08/02/16 11.51
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 08/02/16 19.57
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 08/02/16 20.28
RE: New format NOT good Kris 08/02/16 20.56
RE: New format NOT good bvaanhold . 08/02/16 22.50
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 08/02/16 23.24
RE: New format NOT good Kris 09/02/16 12.19
RE: New format NOT good bvaanhold . 09/02/16 12.22
RE: New format NOT good edgar 09/02/16 18.10
RE: New format NOT good cindy bowers 09/02/16 19.30
RE: New format NOT good Rosie 08/02/16 22.12
RE: New format NOT good Elisabeth Grerot 09/02/16 17.03
RE: New format NOT good jfine . 09/02/16 21.04
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 10/02/16 1.35
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 10/02/16 1.40
RE: New format NOT good Jessica J 09/02/16 3.25
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 09/02/16 3.34
RE: New format NOT good Elisabeth Grerot 09/02/16 16.45
RE: New format NOT good Stacy Koenig 09/02/16 20.26
RE: New format NOT good Ysanne Johnson 09/02/16 21.03
RE: New format NOT good Rue . 10/02/16 9.18
RE: New format NOT good Kris 10/02/16 15.17
RE: New format NOT good Elisabeth Grerot 10/02/16 16.13
RE: New format NOT good p g 10/02/16 19.00
RE: New format NOT good Gigi SP 10/02/16 21.21
RE: New format NOT good temi grafton 12/02/16 17.36
RE: New format NOT good scoobydoobydoo . 13/02/16 15.32
RE: New format NOT good Valentina . 13/02/16 22.09
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 15/02/16 2.25
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 15/02/16 8.35
RE: New format NOT good . . 15/02/16 13.07
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 15/02/16 13.28
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 15/02/16 14.20
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 15/02/16 14.26
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 15/02/16 19.15
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 15/02/16 19.32
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 16/02/16 23.34
RE: New format NOT good Ra100 17/02/16 7.09
RE: New format NOT good Antonio Laguna 05/05/16 23.28
RE: New format NOT good . . 15/02/16 15.29
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 16/02/16 3.08
RE: New format NOT good marybh . 16/02/16 3.12
RE: New format NOT good Michaela Koska 21/02/16 6.59
RE: New format NOT good Mud Shark 24/02/16 1.47
RE: New format NOT good cheri 04/08/16 18.41
RE: New format NOT good Elad 04/08/16 19.30
RE: New format NOT good leiro . 14/08/16 21.19
RE: New format NOT good Elad 19/08/16 20.30
New format NOT good
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08/02/16 20.40
The griddlers format changed today - and I am sooooo not happy with it. The squares are too tiny, but if I make them larger then I can't see any green vertical lines (indicating that a column has been completed). I have to constantly scroll up and down to see the top section. But the worst thing is that I can no longer change individual colors. I now have only 3 options (Original, Standard and Alternative) - but none of them allow me to change any specific color. The old color palette is gone. 

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Why did you change the format so drastically? How do I change specific colors to the ones I want to use?

P.S. There are actually two good things about this new format.
(1) I will no longer waste time doing griddlers every day - so now I can actually do something constructive with my new free time.
(2) I will not waste money renewing my membership - I will spend that amount on something else. 
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08/02/16 2.03 come risposta a Kris.
I completely agree.  I can't stand it.  Why was it changed?  I don't think I'll be doing anymore Griddlers, frankly.
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08/02/16 2.52 come risposta a Kris.
The change that most disturbs me is that the box in the top left that showed what my solution looks like so far is no longer showing up as of today. emoticon Makes it harder to work large puzzles.
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08/02/16 3.09 come risposta a Kris.
totally agree with all comments. I won't be doing puzzles any more. Too difficult for older eyes to follow. Put it back to old version
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08/02/16 5.41 come risposta a Kris.
I also completely agree!!!! I solved puzzles for several years and it was always fun, but this version is totally annoying emoticon
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08/02/16 8.13 come risposta a Kris.
I agree too. There are just some colours that really play with my eyes so I need to be able to change individual colours. And in all three selections of colour choices, they all have some colours I struggle with. Find it hard to see my line guides too.
Also can't seem to save anything. Anyone else have that problem?
Please change it back to the old way. There was nothing wrong with it emoticon
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08/02/16 8.32 come risposta a Jacqui ..
cheekysavage .Also can't seem to save anything. Anyone else have that problem?
It seems to save. but it does not give any confirmation that it has been saved. :/
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08/02/16 12.39 come risposta a Kris.
Totally agree with Kris Kadin and the rest. The colors are the worst. Also, middle mouse button to remove color from a square immediately activates scroll function...
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08/02/16 11.51 come risposta a Kris.
I completely agree. New format NOT GOOD
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08/02/16 18.00 come risposta a marybh ..
marybh .The change that most disturbs me is that the box in the top left that showed what my solution looks like so far is no longer showing up as of today. emoticon Makes it harder to work large puzzles.
Marybh is right! It was very nice being able to see how the image was developing. And now it is gone. This new format is terrible!!
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08/02/16 19.57 come risposta a Kris.
I completely agree too with all the posts shown here. This new format is awful. It looks like people who have developed it don´t do griddlers. If so, they wouldn't have "killed" the good things old format had.
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08/02/16 20.28 come risposta a Kris.
I'll start with quote from Taskwarior documentation  http://taskwarrior.org/docs/advice.html  :
Every change will ruin someone’s day. They will be sure to tell you about it. The same change will improve someone's day. You will not hear of this.
I would be very happy if you read whole article linked above. 
So today I fixed puzzle saving - it was very interesting bug because save failed only in puzzles with empty row or column. So it was really hard to identify what is wrong.
Other thing was puzzle preview. Not that it is difficult to implement but  when I asked for most valuable features, nobody mentioned that. Now we know how important it is.
Oh, I forgot to mention individual color change. You know, my original goal was find several complete palettes of eight colors for each type of colorblindnes. So you don't need to change colors one by one. You would just choose one palette and done. 
Maybe tomorrow I'll make a counter. 

Rasto.
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08/02/16 20.56 come risposta a Ra100.
RastoRa100 - color changing is not about color blindness. Some of the large or multi puzzles use colors that are almost identical with only a slight change (like browns). A pre-assigned palette is useless unless it makes all those very similar shades very different from each other. That is why I usually change the artist's colors to something totally different - just to solve the puzzle without wasting tons of time and getting frustrated because I used the wrong shade. It is much better to allow us to choose to change certain colors if we want to - rather than forcing us to use a predetermined set..

Also - so far no one has commented saying that they like the new format. Unless you start getting a lot of comments from players who actually like the change - you should seriously consider going back to the way it was. Including being able to see the vertical green lines (for large puzzles) instead of only the horizontal ones. And making the squares the size they used to be instead of the new tiny version. 
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08/02/16 22.12 come risposta a Kris.
I HATE this new format!! I agree with everyone else's negative comments. It is way too hard on the eyes. The only good thing about the change is that it has finally helped me break my bad Griddlers habit. I'm NOT coming back until they change back to the old format!
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08/02/16 22.50 come risposta a Ra100.
Rasto Ra100
Oh, I forgot to mention individual color change. You know, my original goal was find several complete palettes of eight colors for each type of colorblindnes. So you don't need to change colors one by one. You would just choose one palette and done. 
Maybe tomorrow I'll make a counter. 

Rasto.

I think that is a great goal. It might be helpful if we would be able to define our own palette once and could re-use it for other puzzles afterwards.
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08/02/16 23.24 come risposta a Ra100.
Rasto Ra100 you said You would just choose one palette and done. Ok. I would be very grateful if you are kind enough to explain to me how I can change the green color in Multi griddler 111.484 for example.
 


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09/02/16 3.13 come risposta a marybh ..
Thank you for making that fix on the preview. emoticon
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09/02/16 3.25 come risposta a Kris.
I agree - the new format for "Lite Version" is AWFUL! Really clunky and difficult to use. Please fix it, Griddlers!
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09/02/16 3.34 come risposta a Jessica J.
So the preview picture is back in the top left corner, but on larger puzzles, such as Hard Cat needed for 6th star, the red and green are not showing up at the top of the columns and to the left of the rows.  Yesterday the red and green were there but the preview picture was not. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a setting I need to adjust? It seems to be fine on smaller puzzles.
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09/02/16 12.19 come risposta a Ra100.
Today I see that there are now blank boxes for changing colors - thank you. But there are still the following issues:
(1) The boxes and fonts are too tiny. The puzzle needs to be enlarged in order to be able to see the numbers clearly. You need to remember that some (most?) of your subscribers are old enough to have vision issues. 
(2) When you enlarge the puzzle, you cannot see the info at the very top - you can't see any green vertical lines because they appear only at the top of the screen.
(3) There is no way to know how many squares need to be marked vertically when you are working at the bottom of a 50x50 puzzle. That info used to show up on the left side of the screen - now it doesn't exist.

Question - why was the format changed? Why was the decision made to change something that didn't need fixing?
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09/02/16 12.22 come risposta a Kris.
Kris Kadin
Question - why was the format changed? Why was the decision made to change something that didn't need fixing?

http://www.griddlers.net/nl_NL/forum/-/message_boards/message/6000797#_19_message_8427117
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09/02/16 16.45 come risposta a Kris.
I agree. The new form is soooo worthless. I will not pay anythiing for this.
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09/02/16 17.03 come risposta a Rosie.
I agree, Rosie, I was sitting with Griddlers far too much. BUT - they augth to be ashamed of destroying this page. We are some physically disabled that have had a great pleasure of this page and now it's obviously come to an end.
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09/02/16 18.10 come risposta a Kris.
I agree with everyone.  The new format is not only ugly and really hard on the eyes, but I am also missing the square counts that were really valuable.  I just renewed my subscription in December.  I sure wish I could get a refund.  It's unplayable. 
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09/02/16 19.30 come risposta a Ra100.
It seems everyone has been negative to the griddler changes, although they were frustrating for a short period of time, I quickly adjusted, and love the new format.  Just wanted to show my support.  Thanks!
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09/02/16 20.26 come risposta a Kris.
I agree.  I don't like that I can't change the colors.  How can I pause any more?  I do not like this new update one bit.
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09/02/16 21.03 come risposta a Kris.
Woe is me for I can no longer play griddlers. The individual sqaures are mostly gone with only random ones showing. The colours are simply awful, the tools useless. When I went to finish a beautiful bouquet it was hardly discernable, as I say the squares vanished, quite honestly a complete mess. I actually thought there was some terrible bug on the site only to find that this disaster was caused by Griddlers themselves.
Why on earth have the 'powers that be' changed a game to such a degree that it is no longer playable?
What a shame that so many folks have now wasted their efforts in producing beautiful picture puzzles that cannot even be completed by anyone.
Disgusted and saddened by such foolishness
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09/02/16 21.04 come risposta a Elisabeth Grerot.
Everyone should try again--at least for me on Chrome, Rasto Ra has fixed the things that were issues when first updated over the weekend, and I'm happily playing again. 

Things I noticed that are now fixed: 
- Can now change colors individually (yay!)
- Save works
- Preview in upper left corner
- zoom/pause/etc buttons work as before

I think it's impressive that these were fixed so quickly and with communication through this forum. Thanks Rasto Ra!
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10/02/16 1.35 come risposta a jfine ..
Are there plans to fix the red and green "lights" at the ends of rows and columns, especially in large puzzles? It is quite impossible to work without them.  I agree that other bugs were fixed quickly, and also the new font is a little easier on my eyes.
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10/02/16 1.40 come risposta a marybh ..
My apologies and compliments! I see that the red and green lights show up if you start to work on a puzzle that was in progress at the time of the update.  Thanks!
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10/02/16 9.18 come risposta a Kris.
I appreciate the updates in the past few days! The fact that I can now choose colors that don't hurt my eyes makes such a difference.
Only middle mouse click still lets me scroll the page instead of just removing a color emoticon
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10/02/16 15.17 come risposta a Kris.
I am now doing my happy dance!! Everything now looks like it did before - which makes it soooooo much easier to do the large puzzles. Thank you so much Rasta for making the changes.
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10/02/16 16.13 come risposta a Kris.
I agree with Kris. Now it is normal and completely wondeful again. Thanks!
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10/02/16 19.00 come risposta a Elisabeth Grerot.
Well the Lite version now doesn't work at all today.

It was useless and annoying yesterday, with so many bugs to mention here.

Who are your developers Griddlers - do you ever test anything before putting it out live?

Get it put back immediately.

As you can see from the recent comments you have people leaving and you are ruining the site.
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10/02/16 21.21 come risposta a Elisabeth Grerot.
Agree. At the beginning I didn't like and thought i would abandon griddlers as I did the tridlers, that since the last update i was unable to use due to the lack of the guiding lines, Now i'm in love with it again, tks developers!!!
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12/02/16 17.36 come risposta a Gigi SP.
It's terrible.  I can't track the lines on large squares.  I have tried to tinker with all the things that feel wrong and it doesn't help me to change the colours or the size.  Please please please can we have the old version back?
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13/02/16 15.32 come risposta a Kris.
The new format is ugly and difficult to use. 

Since you have 2 versions of the java applet available, why not do the same with the lite version?  Could you please put the 'old' lite version back up as an option?

That way everyone can choose which version they like best.  Everybody wins
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13/02/16 22.09 come risposta a Kris.
totally agree with you...totally annoying that i have to scroll upp everytime to see whats next, and dont even know if i'm at the correct line....horrible format
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15/02/16 2.25 come risposta a Valentina ..
The last remaining problem for me is that there is no bar on the left side showing what the vertical squares are in the column you are on. Particularly difficult on large puzzles such as Hard Cat.
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15/02/16 8.35 come risposta a marybh ..
Hi, 
I am somehow lost. With Special-> CMR On it should show this bar.
Please post a screenshot.
Rasto
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15/02/16 13.07 come risposta a Ra100.
The change that has the largest negative impact (for me) is that the horizontal and vertical lines don't track the cursor.
Not quite sure how to explain it, but the current column and row were always highlighted, so it was easy to see where we were.
Now it's too much of a guess, resulting in unnecessary errors / time wastage.
I hope this makes sense.

Otherwise, no mjor issues.
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15/02/16 13.28 come risposta a . ..
Did you try Menu->Guides->Both ?
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15/02/16 14.20 come risposta a Ra100.
Thanks for the fixes made lately. However, I miss something that was in the latest versions. You could toggle crosses by pressing Shifh+clicking. Now if you want to remove a cross you have to click on the cross (upper left corner), remove it, and back again to choose color, which is a little annoying.
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15/02/16 14.26 come risposta a Antonio Laguna.
Actually this is also fixed though not in header-numbers yet. 
Now there are two ways how to add XO markers.
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15/02/16 15.29 come risposta a Ra100.
Rasto Ra100Did you try Menu->Guides->Both ?
Many thanks - that did the trick.
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15/02/16 19.15 come risposta a Ra100.
I'm afraid that doesn't work for me (neither Chrome nor Firefox). I can put crosses with Shift+Click but can't remove them.
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15/02/16 19.32 come risposta a Antonio Laguna.
Well, on Windows Ctrl+Click removes only one X . So I'v added also Alt+click to remove. 

Rasto
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16/02/16 3.08 come risposta a Ra100.
Please explain how I find "Special->CMR. I don't know if it is on or not. That might be easier than a screenshot for me. If not, I can post screenshot later.
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16/02/16 3.12 come risposta a marybh ..
Never mind - figured it out.  Thanks!!! It does work now.  I like the updated version.
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16/02/16 23.34 come risposta a Ra100.
Thanks for the fixes Rasto. It's working now. 
Just another request: in last version we could undo just pressing backspace. Could we have that again?
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17/02/16 7.09 come risposta a Antonio Laguna.
Hi,  undo operation is bound to Ctrl+Z and Backspace however depending on browser one of them could be not working.
Rasto.
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21/02/16 6.59 come risposta a Kris.
The new format ist now some kinde of working - but I still have problems with the colours... I can change them to standard palette, but these colours are aweful. The green is hurting my eyes emoticon In Firefox I can't change the single colours, in Microsoft Edge I can, but some are shown without the numbers, so this makes no sense...
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24/02/16 1.47 come risposta a Kris.
Pardon my French (to use an American idiom) but I seem to have missed a shit storm here!  Were all these issues related to changes on the web app?  I've been using igridd for years and never noticed any problems (or changes) during this transition.  I have plenty of gripes about the new web design, but none of them affect my puzzle play.
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05/05/16 23.28 come risposta a Ra100.
It doesn't work. Neither chrome nor firefox. Neither backspace nor CTRL Z
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04/08/16 18.41 come risposta a Kris.
Agreed. 
I also will not be playing or renewing. Unfortunately, I just renewed in May.... sad to pay for a year when I only got 2 months of griddlers.
I would love to have the old griddler applet back please.
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04/08/16 19.30 come risposta a cheri.
Hi cheri,
You may find old solver at: Yop menu --> Puzzles --> Griddlers categories.
Note to use IE or FF browsers for Java solver.
If you'll have java issues please write directly to team@griddlers.net
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14/08/16 21.19 come risposta a Kris.
The whole thing responds slowly, and is a nightmare to solve..
Škoda no, back to paper it is emoticon

Edit:
Elad .You may find old solver at: Yop menu --> Puzzles --> Griddlers categories.
oh and i thought i could leave so easily, now im glued back on the screen, dammit emoticon
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19/08/16 20.30 come risposta a leiro ..
combination of old list and saved filter is slower.
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